Curse

roboky · Jul 02, 2005, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Is anyone noticing the lack of drops in underworld? I was there before the update and I got globs and the party members got storm and eternal bows. Now all I get are remains and normal items. Not even decent gold. Was it a bad luck on those runs? Or a nerf?

Wa$d · Jul 02, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57

nerf, very rare to get good stuff now

Kha · Jul 02, 2005, 08:58 PM // 20:58

I never found the runs all that exceptional in the first place. Globs still come randomly, though it seems less than before. And the smites have been nerfed. I used to love UW too, but now there isn't much point of going there.

Nathanator_5000 · Jul 02, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03

I finally reached the UW and FoW after the nerf occured so I didn't lose anything that I was used to. I'm now almost done with the game and I've only gotten one obsidian shard in the 4-5 times I've descended into the UW.

blood raven · Jul 02, 2005, 09:05 PM // 21:05

i just dont get it!

the smites were ment to be hard to get to and drop good stuff.
like a lot of other creatures in the game!
now its all nerfed
no good drops whatsoever!!!!!
grr

Drakron · Jul 02, 2005, 09:14 PM // 21:14

I want to see someone claiming there is no grind in this game.

salja Wachi · Jul 02, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

yea UW has never been really great for drops anyway (:

Red Locust · Jul 02, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

UW and FoW are all about exp these days. People mainly go there for the 5000 and 10000 xp quests.

Elena · Jul 02, 2005, 09:22 PM // 21:22

well ya know what this means all those drops you get in UW storm bow eternal bow ectoplasm and all that other stuff is yust going to raise in price hurrah! -.-'

Mariena Feladon · Jul 02, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

True, the UW has been nerfed and it seems it's now just an EXP area, like Red Locust said.

Still, I want my globs and shards and if Melandru allows it, a storm bow (and even that, a max damage storm bow is a PITA to find .. did they also decrease the chance of finding max dmg items?).

Call me stubborn or persistant, but I refuse to stop killing monsters in the UW so I can find a glob of ectoplasm, despite the fact that the nerf bat hit again.

If it wasn't for that cool Fissure Armor I eventually want, I'd not be wasting my time in there. I've got enough skill points so I don't really care about the quests.

Porkchop Sandwhiches · Jul 02, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

And now that ecto is far more rare, means the prices will be jacked up even more. Farming, here I come!

Dumachum · Jul 02, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Drops in UW have disappeared almost all together. Couple weeks ago I did a smite run where 3 Storm Bows, 1 Eternal Bow, and about a dozen ectos dropped. Since then I have done runs every night and have only seen maybe 5 or 6 storm bows, 2 eternal bows, 1 ghost staff, 2 eternal shields, and about the same number of ectos.

So far in the last 2 weeks I have personally recieved..

0 Storm Bows
0 Eternal Bows
1 Ghostly Staff
4 ectoplasm
0 ZERO PURPLE ITEMS
0 ZERO GOLD ITEMS

Doing Smite runs every night. Not only that but Purple and Gold weapon drops are nonexistant now in any zone. I haven't gotten a Gold weapon since the major loot nerf 2 or 3 weeks ago. This is beyond farming because there really isn't anything dropping to farm.

Kha · Jul 02, 2005, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by Dumachum

Doing Smite runs every night. Not only that but Purple and Gold weapon drops are nonexistant now in any zone. I haven't gotten a Gold weapon since the major loot nerf 2 or 3 weeks ago. This is beyond farming because there really isn't anything dropping to farm.

This is my only real issue with the game right now. The designers seem to think that nerfing drops period solves the farming problem, when really drop rates and farming are two different things. The only way to make farming/grinding useless is when actually playing the game through in missions and exploration with teams benefits you more or just as much as soloing/farming. For now, I guess everyone will have to suffer because of this.

corax5 · Jul 02, 2005, 10:52 PM // 22:52

I agree I managed to get to the Underworld a few hours ago when Europe finnaly had the favour, I was in a group of just trappers, we did great, we rarely if ever had a death even after someone left 5 minutes after entering. We were there for what seemed like hours and we didn't recieve a single purple or gold drop, all we got were collectors items, white crappy weapons, (non of which were max damage) and a single max damage staff. Its stupid how bad the drops were.

Rhadamanthys · Jul 02, 2005, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Same here. Been to fow and uw countless times this week and barely got anything worth while. This is stupid!! I mean, getting good drops is what makes this game fun and re-playable. Seriously, if they increased the drops then prices for good weapons wouldn't be so ridiculously high as they are now. Ultimately, taking out the drops is just like taking out the fun in this game.

Zuggy · Jul 02, 2005, 11:06 PM // 23:06

I saw a gold storm bow going for 300plat the other day. That's just wrong.

Ishamael Sedai · Jul 02, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumachum

Drops in UW have disappeared almost all together. Couple weeks ago I did a smite run where 3 Storm Bows, 1 Eternal Bow, and about a dozen ectos dropped. Since then I have done runs every night and have only seen maybe 5 or 6 storm bows, 2 eternal bows, 1 ghost staff, 2 eternal shields, and about the same number of ectos.

So far in the last 2 weeks I have personally recieved..

0 Storm Bows
0 Eternal Bows
1 Ghostly Staff
4 ectoplasm
0 ZERO PURPLE ITEMS
0 ZERO GOLD ITEMS

Doing Smite runs every night. Not only that but Purple and Gold weapon drops are nonexistant now in any zone. I haven't gotten a Gold weapon since the major loot nerf 2 or 3 weeks ago. This is beyond farming because there really isn't anything dropping to farm.

The thing is as an area becomes more and more popular if it isn't nerfed some prices will eventually tank anyway. Now this might be a little extreme, but I agree with the concept. If everyone is picking up purple and gold stormbows those bows won't be as much.

Drakron · Jul 02, 2005, 11:10 PM // 23:10

You know, they appear to trying the MMORPG way to maintain its player base.

MMORPGs go for time sinks so players dont drop out after completing the game quests (that itself is a time sink) and have a all powerful character, they make unlockables that require a great deal of time to reach.

Problem is Guild Wars does none of that, the game takes its time to complete but not months of intense playing and leveling up is also fast and pointless since at lv20 there are no more levels, you can just forget about finishing the game after the meeting Glint (and you dont even need to do that to reach the high quality items) since there is nothing in Ring of Fire for the players, no ultimate weapons/armor/items, no good drop areas (the only non mission area have the same drops rate that the rest of the game) that calls the atention of the player, end game is PvP and who needs to complete the game to go to Tombs?

With reduce drop rates that is to prevent exactly what?

People getting bored and leaving ... this is not a pay to play game, there is no need to maintain a faithful 24/7 player base, you already have their money.

Also by making the game a grind people start to wonder exactly why they keep playing PvE (since ArenaNet already removed PvE grind from PvP) since drops are the same and they are so random there is no point going to some late game area and try to get a gold drop, they have the same chance of that in most of the game.

And the bonus areas ... nerf their drops for what?

Lets see, last time I checked gold is pointless since there is nothing to buy (no house, no custom armor set, no clothing) and people just farm for a very expensive armor set that I guess anyone that beat the game and farmed for about a month can afford.

Nobody is going to stick with the PvE after they got their Fissure armor, there are NO REWARDS besides that.

And its not "rewarding the good players", being a good player is not having to clean a map 5 times to get a purple drop that is likely a ninor rune I unlocked 2 weeks ago or some weapon I cannot use with useless stats.

Ba Ne · Jul 02, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

This news is disheartening. I finished the last mission last night and was looking forward to some UW/Fissure runs for good drops. I hope next weeks update addresses this issue of the shite drops everywhere in Tyria.

Dumachum · Jul 02, 2005, 11:38 PM // 23:38

It's not all pruple or gold items. I've gotten several, quite a few actually, purple armors and a nice amout, 3-4, gold armors the last couple weeks.

It's just warrior/ranger WEAPONS. Axes, Swords, hammers, and Bows. They DO NOT drop, ever. White and blue weapons drop about as infrequently as pruple and gold ones did before the nerf. Purple weapons now drop once in a full moon, and I HAVE YET to recieve a gold since the nerf.

But for some mysterious reason I have RODS AND STAFFS coming out my ears. EVERYTHING drops this garbage. It's all I ever see drop. Hell i get more white and blue staffs then I do white weapons.

It's so bad I have been contemplating whether or not there is a possibility that a drop bug might exist. I still see tons of crap being auctioned in towns but where they're getting it I don't know. I'm certainly not seeing any of it.